Category: Technical Detail

  • Which tyre is best for a motorcycle trip

    Which tyre is best for a motorcycle trip

    We have been on a long distance motorcycle trip since July 2016. Our plan is to travel around the world and we made so far 17.000 km in Europe and 50.000 km in Africa. So, we tested some different motorcycle tyres during this motorcycle road trip. Of course we did our research before we left and we got a lot of advice from different people, but most of this people did not go on a motorcycle trip to Africa neither did most of them ride long distance trips by motorcycle. So eventually we learned it all ourselves and now we would like to share our experiences with you, hopefully it helps you a bit on the way with your choice to find what tyres for a long distance trip will be the best.

    First of all you need to take a look into what kind of roads you want to ride, this is where you can make a choice for your motorcycle tyres. For those who want to ride a lot in the desert with all the loose sand you need something very knobby. For those who want to pass the fastest way you will need more road tires and for the last group what we belong too those who want to ride everywhere except the real sand dunes you need a all road tire. This is because we will ride on the tar road, gravel road, muddy road, rocky road and some sandy road (no deep desert-sand). We are looking for some adventure 😉

    motorcycle road trip

    Which Tyre is best for a motorcycle trip?

    Our original motorcycles tyre size 90/90/21 (front) and 120/80/18 (rear), we are both riding a Honda CRF 250L and you can look for why we choose the Honda CRF250L.

    She has started our motorcycle road trip from Turkey and we met on Germany after that we went to the North Cape and travel around Eastern Europe until we had a little experience how we can ride motorcycle because we had zero ride experience in the beginning.

    Our first tyres where the original Honda CRF 250L tyres IRC Dual Purpose. After that we had Heidenau K60 just before start our Africa trip by motorcycle from Morocco. We changed two times more our tyres in Africa and used  Michellin T63 and Mitas E07.

    IRC Dual Purpose GP-21F / GP- 22 P  

    IRC Dual Purpose GP-21F / GP- 22 P tires review

    This is the standard tire Honda delivers the Honda CRF 250L with. We started our journey with it and made 17.000 km without change front and rear tyres, this was a bit of a surprise as the tires are knobby.  It was our Europe journey and we didn’t ride motorcycle before, therefore we were riding mostly tar roads and ‘good’ gravel roads in Europe. The tires is IRC dual purpose and we could ride on the dust and mud with it.

    Conclusion, we where very surprised they lasted so long (for a knobby tyre), they did their job and we felt safe riding with them on all different roads also during the rain. Just use them till they are finished.

    Heidenau K60 

    We where very happy in the beginning with this choice Heidenau K60, before we only ride with the original Honda CRF 250L tires, so this was a huge step forwards. Especially as we started on the tarmac roads, we ride about 2000 km in Greece, Italy and Morocco before we started riding some off-road in Morocco.

    We passed some amazing mountain roads in Morocco, they where all in pretty good condition and we where still very happy with our tires 🙂 Eventually we even try to ride a bit in the desert sands (or we can say soft sand)  but this was not a great success but I think our motorcycles are just not strong enough for this either when they are fully packed. When we ride further down south the rear tire begin to loose more and more profile ( it was so fast to loose in 10.000 km after IRC experience), so we started to look for new tyres. Unfortunately this is not a easy thing in Africa, especially with our motorcycles as they are small for Western standards and big for African standards. With a lot of luck we found one new and one second hand rear tires in Nigeria with a lot of help from the locals.

    Conclusion, the Heidenau K60 is a good tire but doesn’t last long enough for a long distance motorcycle trip also who we met on the road and used the K60 they were saying same thing like us. Anyway, we ride 16.000 kilometers with the rear tire, need to say the front lasted all the way to Cape Town (South Africa) 24.000 kilometers.  So, we skipped some off-road ride because of that.

    Michellin T63

    Michellin T63 - Long distance motorcycle tires

    We got our ‘new’ tires in Lagos (Nigeria) and we changed them in Gabon, just before we started a 280 km long mud road from Ndende (Gabon) to Dolisie (Republic Congo) (Movie).  For this road you do need some profile on your tires as it can be very muddy all the way. They did a good job on this road but on the tar roads it’s not the best tire ever but that makes sense as it is a knobby tire. We ride in total about 8.000 kilometers with the Michellin T63 tires.

    Conclusion, the Michellin T63 is a good off-road tire for mud, gravel, rocks or small sand roads. When you are using it on a tarmac road it won’t last so long as the profile is more knobby as a normal all-road tire.

    Mitas E07

    Mitas E07 - Which tires best for long distance motorcycle trip

    We arrived in Cape Town, South Africa during the winter time so it was a good place for us to take a rest and we decided to fly to the Netherlands from there to visit my family, my first niece was born and we really wanted to see her. Also this was a good moment for us to buy new tyres in Europe as they are much cheaper as in South Africa, by this time we learned a lot more from other riders on the road who we met or had contact with and also, we have learned how we can ride and which tyres is the best to motorcycle trip for us. 🙂

    Most of them where using the Heidenau K60 (scout) or the Mitas E07, as for us the Heidenau didn’t last long enough we decided to try the Mitas E07. Also we found a good deal for the tires and we could take them with us with our flight, we packed them really well so we didn’t had a problem with the size of the package. Also we choose a bit bigger size for the rear tire, we now use 130/80/18 on our Honda CRF250L.

    We started in Cape Town (South Africa) with the Mitas E07 and ride through all circumstances due weather and underground. In Africa we ride till Sudan, unfortunately our African adventure ended there (she couldn’t get Egypt visa because of some political issue between two countries) and we air freight our motorcycles from Sudan to Turkey. At the moment I’m writing this article we are still using the Mitas E07 since Cape Town we made 26.000 kilometers with front and rear and I’m not thinking about changing them yet.

    Conclusion, the Mitas E07 is so far our best tyre to long distance motorcycle trip and we will continue with them as they are lasting very long and we feel comfortable riding with them.

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :

     

    FS

  • Which part of Honda CRF 250L did we change in 85.000 km in the world trip ?

    Which part of Honda CRF 250L did we change in 85.000 km in the world trip ?

    Both of us have been riding Honda CRF 250 L motorcycles and so far we made 85.000 km in 30 months to turn around Europe and Africa continent. We have been doing all maintenance of motorcycles so we would like to share with you which part of CRF 250 L did we change until now.

    Most people think 250 cc motorcycle is too small for a world trip especially for Africa continent.  We think that it is a good option but you can be right if you want to ride on desert you need more power to go through the loose sands.

    You can also check the article about;  why we did choose Honda CRF 250 L to travel around the world.

    World trip with motorcycle

    Which part of Honda CRF 250L did we change in 85.000 km in the world trip ?

    One is second hand, it was 2.500 km when we bought model 2014, which is from Turkey.

    Other Honda CRF 250 was new when we bought it, which is 2016 model and from Holland.

     

    2014 model 2016 model Which part has Changed Detail
    2.500 km 1.000 km Engine oil and filter We didn’t know when they changed last time for the second hand. (in TURKEY)
    6.500 km Battery Battery dead for second hand motorcycle. (in HOLLAND)
    10.000 km 6.700 km Engine oil (in NORWAY)
    14.500 Chain and Back sprocket (in POLAND)
    16.500 km 13.400 km Engine oil and filter (in HOLLAND)
    21.070 km 18.170 km All Tires, Heidenau K60, We used original tires, IRC, in Europe. (in TURKEY)
    21.070 km 18.170 km Engine oil (in TURKEY)
    18.170 km Chain (in TURKEY)
    29.300 km 26.200 km Air filter (in SENEGAL)
    29.300 km 26.200 km Engine oil and filter (in SENEGAL)
    29.300 km Chain and sprockets (in SENEGAL)
    32.000 km 29.000 km Break fluid There was so much dust in it(in MALI)
    31.100 km One fork seal Nigerian roads are terrible (in NIGERIA)
    36.300 km 33.200 km Engine oil (in CAMEROON)
    38.300 km 35.400 km Rear tires, Michelin T63, (in GABON)
    41.500 km 38.700 km Engine oil (in ANGOLA)
    41.500 km 38.700 km Headlight bulb (in ANGOLA)
    38.700 km Sprockets (in ANGOLA)
    47.600 km 45.000 km All Tires, Mitas EO7, (in SOUTH AFRICA)
    47.600 km 45.000 km Engine oil and filter (in SOUTH AFRICA)
    47.600 km 45.000 km Break fluid There was so much dust in it (in SOUTH AFRICA)
    47.600 km 45.000 km Spark plug (in SOUTH AFRICA)
    53.400 km 50.900 km Engine oil (in BOTSWANA)
    58.250 km Clutch pad, Engine oil and Engine filter (in TANZANIA)
    56.000 km Engine oil and filter (in TANZANIA)
    57.250 km Battery and Engine oil (in TANZANIA)
    62.500 km 60.300 km Engine oil we could find organic oil therefore we changed engine oil every 4.000 km.              (in KENYA)
    63.000 km Chain He used the chain total 44.250 km. 🙂           (in ETHIOPIA)
    67.100 km 65.100 km Engine oil It was organic motorcycle engine oil so we wanted to changed in 4.000 km but we couldn’t find good quality engine oil. (in ETHIOPIA)
    65.100 km Clutch pad (in ETHIOPIA)
    68.000 km 66.000 km We cleaned fuel pumps and fuel filter Our both motorcycle stopped and didn’t work well again after bought our first petrol in Sudan. We searched everything and than we had to clean pumps and filters.   (in SUDAN)
    69.000 km 67.000 km Sprockets, Engine oil and filter, Break fluid, fork oil and seals, Spark plug, air filter. And all tires, (Mitas EO7) (in TURKEY)
    69.00 km Rear break, Chain Used the chain 40.000 km   (in TURKEY)
    67.000 km Valve clearance, Fuel pump (in TURKEY)
    73.000 km Rear break (in TURKEY)
    76.000 74.500 km Engine oil (in TURKEY)
    74.500 km Cam chain tensioner (in TURKEY) Free changed because of the fabric problem.
    83.500 Engine oil and filter, Air filter (in TURKEY)
    85.100 km ????????? (in HOLLAND) Motorcycle is in Holland and we are in Turkey therefore we haven’t check yet but could be similar.

     

    *We filled in the km if we changed something on the motorcycle, if there is no number we only changed it on 1 motorcycle.

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :

    When our motorcycles arrive Turkey from Sudan with air freight we went Ersoy Moto, where we can work ourselves on the motorcycles. We had checked-up our CRF 250 L motorcycles. Also we cleaned them, it took many hours to clean African dust and dirt because it was stuck every where. 🙂

    By the way, we went to Honda service in Cape Town to ask about valve clearance when motorcycles were 47.500 km. They told us everything sounds fine therefore they didn’t open the engine. We opened both motorcycles engine for valve clearance in Turkey.  Second hand motorcycle was 69.000 km we measured it but it was not necessary to do so we didn’t.

    We always check the mechanic/technical book of Honda CRF 250L to change everything on time but some parts of motorcycle lasted more long than the book is saying or we didn’t have the parts to change.

    We haven’t changed his breaks yet because we didn’t need to use our break on the road so much. 🙂 Generally, gas breaks is enough for us in Africa. We had to change mine because rear break had damage.

    If you plan a long motorcycle journey like us you should check our other articles about what we carry for fix motorcycles, how much knowledge you need about motorcycle before start to travel , what have been learning on the road to mechanic of motorcycle? …etc   for all articles just click 🙂

  • Which kind of mechanic detail we could learn on the road from motorcycle

    Which kind of mechanic detail we could learn on the road from motorcycle

    We have been learning a lot of things on the road about our motorcycles. Some is basic mechanic stuff some is hard job… Everything is so new for us because we never ride motorcycle before start our world trip. 🙂

    Must check one thing after change/repair your tire.

    We change tire many times but we didn’t know one detail for control until have problem.

    I had flat tire again in Mozambique and we repaired it. It was look like everything fine but when started to ride the feeling was no balance at all. It was hard to ride slow and I had hard time on the sand. Therefore we checked again to find the problem and we saw that tire didn’t fit well.

    We tried to get air out and put back again in a petrol station but didn’t work. So, we took out the tire, got air out and got the wheel lose of the tire, use a little WD40 after then gave air again.

    So, if you change your tire first time you should keep in your mind to look this detail. 😉

    Motorcycle was working automatically without use start button

    I turn on the engine and started to ride. It was rain and Ferry said that my in front light didn’t work. Must be a problem with the bulb or a fuse. After a while we had a break and than when I turn on my engine motorcycle work without using the start button. Still my light wasn’t working.

    Rain was like shower so we couldn’t do anything. Next day, the problem kept continue. The light didn’t work and motorcycle started before push the start button.

    We saw that a little stone got stuck in the start button. The button takes all electricity from the motorcycle when the engine goes on. So, if the button stuck the motorcycle can work automatically and still takes all power from the motorcycle. Of course, no electricity. We got out the stone and everything turned back normal.

    Now. After all gravel, sand, dirt..etc. road we always check the start button to make sure nothing stuck and sometime we use WD40 to make sure.

    Our air filter, we can’t clean it but we couldn’t find the same as our motorcycle air filter.

    Our motorcycle (Honda CRF 250L) air filter needs to change every 24.000 km. We changed first time when the motorcycle was 29.000 km. The air filter was clean so we wanted to use long because we were in Africa.

    After Congo, DRC, Gabon and Namibia We wanted to check the air filter. It was only 12.000 km but air filter was dirty. No way to put back like that but it was hard to find as well. We went to a mechanic service and use their brake cleaner to clean the filter. After it got dry we put it back again.

    When you start the motorcycle engine you need to open gas more and listen to the sound. Because in the beginning the sound is like somebody coughs.

    We heard from some people who use OMO to clean their air filter. We haven’t done that but keeping it in our mind if necessary we can do it.

    No chain oil and chain cleaner in West Africa 🙁

    When we were starting to our journey we had two chain oils and one chain cleaner. We were thinking to easy find this kind of stuff in Africa. But we didn’t. When we were in Senegal we found small chain oil that was so expensive. Can’t be like that we have no option to travel without oil the chain.

    We bought truck oil, which is thick, and not keeping dust. Just need a teeth brusher to put it on the chain 😉

    Sometimes, we must clean the chain of course. Can’t find chain cleaner but find break fluid everywhere. So we bought one small and clean the chain with it. It is really so easy to clean. 😉

    …will continue 🙂

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :

     

  • When and which part do we change ourselves on the motorcycle.

    When and which part do we change ourselves on the motorcycle.

    Our plan makes 200.000 km with Honda CRF 250L. Therefore we must take care well. We made more than 52.000 km until now.

    Chain oil:

    We oil our chain by hand and do that every 250 km, when we can’t find real chain oil we used motor oil for trucks, this is very thick and a good alternative for the chain oil.

    Engine oil:

    We change our oil every 6.000 km, we try to find the best quality available. This is not easy in a lot of countries. We try to look for 10W 40 API SG or higher JASO MA. Unfortunately we can’t always find this, as we are in Africa we can also use 20W 50 what is more available this is because the temperature will not be lower then 10 degrees Celsius when we are riding.

    Oil filter:

    We change our oil filters every second time we change our oil. This means every 12.000 km for us.

    Air filter:

    We change our air filters every 25.000 km, this is a easy job on the CRF250L.

    Sprockets:

    We use the original sprockets for the motorcycle 12 front 44 back for us the speed and acceleration is enough at the moment. It is possible to change them to 13 front 42 back so you have a higher top speed and the acceleration goes up. We are riding in Africa and are here to see and explore, also the road conditions are not good we see a lot of really big potholes so it’s nice to ride slowly. We change our sprockets first time after 40.000 km, the front was really finished at this point, the rear could do a bit more but not much.

    Chain:

    We started with the original DID 520 VX chain, which hardly went for 20.000 km. This was not enough for us, now we are riding with a golden ?????? chain, this one we use now for 25.000 km and is still totally fine.

    Tires:

    This is a tough one, we started with the original tires from Honda. They lasted surprisingly long, we made 17.000 km with them. After research, getting advice from a lot of people we bought the Heidenau K60. This is a tire to use off road and on the tar roads. For us this was not a good choice, when riding in Africa the roads are different everywhere the tire is useless in the sand and not good enough on gravel roads, they lasted 15.000 km. We found second hand tires in Nigeria the Michellin T63, they handled the off road conditions much better. We will now start with the Mitas E07 dakar, we certainly hope this one will get us at least 20.000 km

    Spark plug:

    We changed this after 50.000 km and keep the old ones with us as a spare pare what we hopefully don’t need to use.

    Brake pads:

    After 50.000 km they still look fine, we have a extra pair but we didn’t change them yet.

    Brake fluid:

    We changed our brake fluid after 30.000 km, this was even in Africa easy to find.

    Brake :

    We passed 50.000 km and still we use first one. We don’t use brake that much in Africa, look like 🙂

    Gear pads:

    Our plan was changed around 50.000 km but still going well. Therefore we have been carrying with us we will change when we need.

    Light bulbs:

    We only change them when they break, this happened for both our headlights after 40.000 km.

    Fork seal:

    We changed one in Nigeria after the terrible roads in there. Ferry’s right fork seal torn. It took 13 days to find new one because our motorcycle size is a little different. Now, we have two extra with us.

     

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :

     

  • What do we control daily/routine on our motorcycles to keep them good condition?

    What do we control daily/routine on our motorcycles to keep them good condition?

    We want to be on the road many years with our motorcycles. Therefore, we need take care of them very well. Also, it’s not easy to fine a lot of parts for the motorcycles in most West-African countries.

    Tires:

    We check tire pressure every 2 days. If we pass really bad road we check them to make sure we don’t have any needles, small rock or something stuck.

    Chain and Sprockets:

    We clean the chain every 1.500-2.000 km. At the same time we control in front sprocket to make sure.

    We look how much tide our chains is 3 times a week.

    We oil the chain every 200-500 km. It depends on the weather and road condition.

    Fluid, Oil, etc.:

    We don`t have anything routine time for that. They are in front of us. When we stop on the road she always turn around the motorcycles and looking break fluids, radiator and engine oil.

    General Control :

    Maybe the most important one is that we listen to our motorcycles when riding, if we hear anything different we try to figure out what it is. Apart from the every week or after a bad road bumpy, rocky, dusty, etc. we look almost all screws, breaks, engine. To see anything we lost or has damage.

    Following Technical Book:

    Also, we look to technical book when we need to change parts or what we need to control.

    Looking Our Notes:

    We have been writing notes when we changed something (engine oil, oil-air filter, sprockets, chain…etc.) on our motorcycles. So, we check our notes and motorcycle km to don’t miss anything.

     

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :

     

  • How much technical knowledge do you need for a World Trip by motorcycle?

    How much technical knowledge do you need for a World Trip by motorcycle?

    To be honest, We didn’t know anything about technical service when we started our world trip in Europe. We were thinking we could learn on the road. On the other hand, it was easy way to start our motorcycle journey from Europe. Because If we need technical service We can find easily 🙂

    We want to write our comic experiences which You can have fun and understand that We really didn’t know anything.

    GS started to ride from Turkey and We met in Germany. We went together to Holland to get ready for Nordkapp.

    Our first day for motorcycle journey to Nordkapp from Holland:

    We were almost German border and stopped to buy petrol. Her motorcycle didn’t work again! We have no idea what happened. GS wanted to call her brother to ask. Her brother said that look for insurances. We have no idea where they are. We had guess and open to side. We were just looking them without took our and check they broke our not. Because we didn’t know that J After a while we called a technical service in Holland and They said that This is battery problem. They said that “go to second gear, push motorcycle and turn engine. After work it wait a while.“ Yes, we did it. It worked but engine sound wasn’t good. So, we went to the technical service and learn that the battery was dead. Her motorcycle is second hand and we had to change the battery……

    (We were in Africa and a motorcycle had same problem who was in Africa by motorcycle. We said him that He has a battery problem we need push it and after that wait a while to get the battery full, it worked :))

    honda crf 250l

    We are in Norway and Time to change oil filter and engine oil:

    We never do that before. But GS saw when her brother did. So, First GS changed her oil filter and engine oil. But no way to open his screw to took out dirty engine oil. Screw was stuck and we didn’t have good tools to fix it. GS walked around the village to ask tools and GS found one. We changed two motorcycles oil filter and engine oil almost in a half-day.

    (For Africa journey, we have new tools :))

    Honda crf 250l world trip

    Ferry, my motorcycle doesn’t wan to go anymore:

    We were riding on Finland highway. Suddenly, my motorcycle started to jump. I was telling to FS on intercom that “Something wrong! My motorcycle doesn’t want to go, engine will stop soon.” I went to emergency line and stop. He asked me first about petrol. I told him I have 2 draws more. He got surprise because He was using reserve. He looked to the tank and saw zero petrol.  He went to look petrol and I understood that Don`t trust what showing my motorcycle for the petrol line.

    (In Africa, We just check how many km. we go with petrol)

    Europe motorcycle trip

    The Chain is getting big and a lot of noise. No idea what happening:

    GS called again her brother to ask what we can do. He send some photos and We learned that we need to take tire bag to tide chain again. We found a Wi-Fi in Tallinn and look some YouTube videos. After there we started to work on it. It took more than half a day. But It was to late we had to change the chain in Poland.

    (In Africa, we can control chain a lot and if we need to tide the chain It can take 10 minutes now 🙂 )

    honda crf 250l techinical

    Actually, we didn’t have more problems during our 20.000 km ride in Europe. GS wanted to go Istanbul, Turkey before start our Africa journey. Because GS has friends in Istanbul who has technical service and help us to learn technical details for motorcycles and also we can check up motorcycles and modify a little.

    We went to `` Ersoy Moto“ in Istanbul. Owner name is Gokhan. We were in his technical service a week. He showed us everything what we need to know and how we can fix our motorcycles on the road. Also, He checked up them. We changed our chains, tires…etc. there. We bought a lot of thing there what we need necessary on the road from him. Also, we went to some store and modified our motorcycle to be more comfortable. All stuff is really cheap when you compare to Europe.

     

    What we have been learning on the road we always like to share. You can find playlist to watch from our maintenance here :